Gonzalez is now with Boras

Two Major League sources have confirmed that Mike Gonzalez has chosen Scott Boras to now serve as his agent.  The left-handed reliever had previously been represented by Dan Lozano of the Beverly Hills Sports Council. 

Boras’ affiliation should not have much affect on whether or not the Braves attempt to get into a bidding war to secure Gonzalez’s services.   The well-known agent and Frank Wren seem to have a good working relationship. 

While it seems highly unlikely that Rafael Soriano will return to Atlanta, there still seems to be an outside shot that the Braves will attempt to re-sign Gonzalez.  But the level of their interest will be based on the cost that is set courtesy of the interest the left-handed reliever receives from other clubs.

Gonzalez posted a 2.42 ERA and limited opponents to a .209 batting average in the career-high 80 appearances he made for the Braves this past season. 

The Braves are definitely expected to offer arbitration to Gonzalez, who made $3.45 million this past season. Because he has been classified as a Type-A free agent, this offer would provide them the opportunity to receive draft pick compensation if he were to sign elsewhere.

If a Type A free agent signs elsewhere before Dec. 1 or recieves an arbitration offer from their former club, the former club is eligible to receive a first-round draft pick and a sandwich selection between the first and second rounds.  

In the event that the signing club has one of the Draft’s first 15 selections, the former club would receive the sandwich selection and a second-round selection. 
   

16 Comments

Mark, I do hope that Wren takes a page out of Billy Bean’s book “Money Ball” and does not OVER pay for a closer. Although, a bullpen more specifically a closer COULD make or break a season (not the case for the Phillies-Brad Lidge), finding a raw talent from within would be fiscally responsible. Man I hope we can make a run- thanks for all the hard work Mark. I would love to be in your shoes.

I know it has been talked about and shot down by a lot of people but I still don’t see why the Braves don’t give Moyland an opportunity to close. We already have a pretty good abundance of pitching, so I’m with 95braves in saying that we shouldn’t use this off season getting in a bidding war with teams over a closer. Offense needs to be our # 1 concern.

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Billy Beane didn’t write “Moneyball”, nor does he credit himself with coming up with the theory. Just for the record.

My apologies, Money Ball is written by Michael Lewis and is about Billy Beane and his Oakland Athletics. And if he does not credit himself with this theory, he certainly does practice it!

I agree…I love “Moneyball.” I just wanted to point it out, because it is a big deal…a lot of people thought Beane wrote it when it came out, and accused him of bragging and being egotistical. Because of this, morons like Joe Morgan who know nothing about the real dynamics of baseball got all over the Beane and the A’s case (I don’t care if he is a HOFer or not…all because you can play the game doesnt mean you know the inner workings of game). Beane simply put into practice what others such as Bill James have known for a while. The real egomaniacs out there are those “good ole boys” of the game like Morgan, who think they know it all because they’ve “been there”…when in reality, they are assessing a longterm statistical game with evidence from single games or short series’

The news of Scott Boras being retained by Gonzo is just one more reason why Frank Wren should have unloaded one or both of his relief pitchers before the July 31st deadline.

Our GM missed a golden opportunity to improve his club. Soriano and or Gonzalez would have brought some much needed prospects in return, although the draft picks won’t hurt but the Braves need help right now.

Exactly how many pennants and championships has “moneyball” ever won for anybody?
Sure – it provides consistent statistics… but once you get to postseason baseball you need a little more than what moneyball brings to the table.

… and – take a look at some players that Billy Beane refused to draft or wrote a negative scouting report because of his moneyball philosophy.
Prince Fielder – Claimed by Beane to be “too fat”.
BJ Upton – Named as a “bad high school” draft pick
Scott Kazmir – a “foolish” high school draft pick

Players on Beane’s wish list of draft picks in a “perfect world” where money was not an object and he wouldn’t have to compete with the 29 other teams to draft:
John McCurdy – out of professional baseball since 2006
Jeremy Brown – has had small stints of time in the majors, retired prior to the 2008 season.
Stephen Obenchain – retired after a lack of success at the A and AA levels
Steve Stanley – topped out in AA for the A’s
Mark Kiger – AA
Brian Stavisky – AA
Brant Colamarino – AA
To be fair, he had some good picks too on his “perfect” list: Joe Blanton, Russ Adams, Jeff Francis, Nick Swisher, Khalil Greene and Mark Teahen. (none of those players remained with Oakland.) In fact, look at the players who fled Oakland as soon as they could, or were traded: Zito, Mulder, Hudson, Blanton, Giambi, Tejada, Youkilis, Koch, Teahen, Swisher, etc…
The concept of moneyball is creative, and kept the A’s competitive for a few years… but really produced nothing but bad to decent draft picks and players who are no longer in Oakland.
I’ll take the Braves approach to running an organization ANY DAY OF THE WEEK OVER MONEYBALL!!!
Scheurholtz should be the subject of the next book!

Bravomania, I agree with what you say. Obviously this theory has not won the A’s a WS but do you want to over pay for Gonzo with him saving only 26 games in three years? Granite he did have Tommy John last year but to me he just didn’t get the job done this year. He looked a bit flat but maybe you are right and we should pay the Boras price tag for him.

…and in Scheurholtz’s book he wrote that Barry Bonds was a Brave for a day or so

“Granite he (Gonzalez) did have Tommy John last year but to me he just didn’t get the job done this year. He looked a bit flat but maybe you are right and we should pay the Boras price tag for him.”
To that, my only response it to refer you to Mark’s statistics above – “Gonzalez posted a 2.42 ERA and limited opponents to a .209 batting average in the career-high 80 appearances he made for the Braves this past season.”
I agree with you that Gonzalez showed signs of weakness this year. But he also showed signs of brilliance. And as Mark pointed out, a weak bullpen is just as dangerous as a weak offense (see 2005-2007 season for reference). Those teams had great offenses and decent starting pitching. Our bullpen was abysmal. Smoltz would have been a 20+ game winner on several occasions if the pens didn’t blow half of his games. We can’t just shift our weakness from bad offense to bad bullpen during this off season. That will get us nowhere. Should we over pay for Gonzalez? Absolutely not! I don’t think we should over pay for anybody. But – if we lose Gonzo and Soriano and we think that our finishing efforts will rest solely on the also surgically repaired elbow of Peter Moylon… we’re in trouble. Moylon finished the season solid, but also showed signs of weakness and proved to be very hittable if his pitches are flat. I’d love to have Moylon set up Gonzo or vice versa.
I’m not sure about the Boras factor. I guess him and Wren can work fine together. What concerns me are the no-trade clauses that the Braves refuse to work with, as those are typical in Boras contracts.
Also, where in moneyball does it ever insinuate over paying for a closer?
Also also… did you know they are making a movie about moneyball starring Brad Pitt and featuring David Justice as himself? Here’s the link to the movie: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1210166/
as far as the moneyball thing goes – my point was that

bondswasabrave (November 17, 2009 10:15 PM EST) Mark, I do hope that Wren takes a page out of Billy Bean’s book “Money Ball” and does not OVER pay for a closer. Although, a bullpen more specifically a closer COULD make or break a season (not the case for the Phillies-Brad Lidge), finding a raw talent from within would be fiscally responsible.

First of all, Billy Beane didn’t write Moneyball, he is the main character. Secondly, I resent that Billy Beane is credited for that theory. That’s John Schuerholz’s M.O. Not Billy Beane’s. If anything, Beane took a page out of Schuerholz’s book. Schuerholz knew that it was a bad idea to dedicate a ton of financial resources to that area of your team because of the inherent risk and over-inflated market rates. Look at all the different single-season saves leaders (and others that saved at least 10 games) during the playoff run:

1991 ? Juan Berenguer ? 17 (Alejandro Pena ? 11)
1992 ? Alejandro Pena ? 15
1993 ? Mike Stanton ? 27 (Greg McMichael ? 19)
1994 ? Greg McMichael ? 21
1995 ? Mark Wholers ? 25
1996 ? Mark Wholers ? 39
1997 ? Mark Wholers ? 33
1998 ? Kerry Lightenberg ? 30
1999 ? John Rocker ? 38
2000 ? John Rocker ? 24 (Mike Remlinger ? 12, Kerry Lightenberg ? 12)
2001 ? John Rocker ? 19 (John Smoltz ? 10)
2002 ? John Smoltz ? 55
2003 ? John Smoltz ? 45
2004 ? John Smoltz ? 44
2005 ? Chris Retisma ? 15 (Dan Kolb ? 11, Kyle Farnsworth ? 10)

That?s 12 people that saved at least 10 games in 15 seasons. There was zero stability there, but Schuerholz made it work by investing in other areas of the team.

Third, I do agree with you in that I hope Wren doesn’t financially over-commit to relief pitching at the expense of another area of the team. I hope he signs a few buy-low types, maybe a Billy Wagner.

bravesblogbyjake (November 18 2009 3:46 AM EST) I know it has been talked about and shot down by a lot of people but I still don’t see why the Braves don’t give Moyland an opportunity to close.

He’s had trouble pitching to lefties in the past and his career splits indicate he’s probably not ready to close.

bbraves1st (November 18, 2009 6:11 PM EST) The news of Scott Boras being retained by Gonzo is just one more reason why Frank Wren should have unloaded one or both of his relief pitchers before the July 31st deadline.
Our GM missed a golden opportunity to improve his club. Soriano and or Gonzalez would have brought some much needed prospects in return, although the draft picks won’t hurt but the Braves need help right now.

That’s just silly. Why trade key pieces when you have a shot to win now? Also, what GM is going to give up more value than 2 top-50 draft picks for 2 months of a relief pitcher? Other than Ned Coletti and Jim Hendry, I don’t know of one.

Wrong answer pal. The Braves haven’t won squat since 2005. The win now philosophy is a damn lie perpetrated on the fan base and draft picks are even more likely to fail than proven major league talent, and for you to believe that Frank Wren could not have picked up some valuable talent is to believe in failure. Which is exactly what has happened in recent years.

I am glad that my ignorance has spurned some intelligent feedback. PWH, while i do agree with you on some aspects, that theory only won us ONE championship. While a WS is something of great measure, 1/14 is ????? Anyway, let us not dwell on the past and have our heads held high of what’s to come of Jason Heyward and the future gang

go after John Smoltz for a closer and Andrew Jones as the first baseman

The only thing Adam LaRoche doesn’t do better or more often than Andruw Jones is strike out. They both are experts in that field. Other than that, LaRoche is a significantly better first baseman and overall ballplayer than Andruw Jones at this point in their careers.

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