Now it's Braves fans who are jealous of Philly fans
After Cliff Lee produced his dominant performance against the Yankees in Game 1 of the World Series on Wednesday night, I asked Phillies backup catcher Paul Bako if the pinpoint control that Lee has displayed during his past two outings merited a comparison to Greg Maddux.
"I'm not going there," said Bako, who served as Maddux's catcher when the legendary hurler set a National League record by not walking a batter over 72 1/3 innings during the 2001 season. "But when (Lee) is on, he's one of the best pitchers that I've ever seen."
Look there's obviously no reason to throw Lee in the same heralded category as Maddux. But while watching the veteran lefty encounter just three, three-ball counts and make a couple of defensive plays that would have made Curly Neel and Meadowlark Lemon proud, I couldn't help but draw memories from the days when Mad Dog was doing this regularity in Atlanta.
Those were the days when Phillies fans and employees despised the Braves. I've been reminded of this a couple of times while following the defending world champs over the course of the past three weeks.
Some of the phone calls and emails that I've received from Atlanta have provided indication that Braves fans are ignoring National League loyalty and hoping that they don't have to see the Phillies win a second straight World Series.
This is based on a small sample size and maybe this isn't the overwhelming feeling among Braves fans. Maybe I would have gained a different perspective had I actually chosen to spend some extended time away from my residence during the four days that I've been in Atlanta since the regular season concluded.
Still regardless of whether they capture this second straight world championship, it's pretty safe to assume that the Phillies have now replaced the Mets as the Braves most-hated division rivals.
While it will take a few more years for the Mets to rise back to a respectable level, the Phillies appear well-positioned to make a run at a fourth consecutive division title next year. Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Shane Victorino, Jayson Werth and Jimmy Rollins will once again form a solid offensive nucleus and Lee will be around for at least one more year to anchor the starting rotation.
My assumption is that the Phillies will attempt to lock Lee up long before he's given a chance to test the free-agent market at the conclusion of the 2010 season.
Regardless of what the long-term future has in store for Lee, the Phillies will enter next year as the favorites in the National League East. Meanwhile, with Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson and Tim Hudson in place, the Braves still should possess one of the NL's best starting rotation for many years to come.
Once the particulars in Hudson's three-year contract extension are taken care of in the next few days, we'll start to get a better sense about the exact makeup of next year's starting rotation. But regardles of whether it possesses either Derek Lowe or Javier Vazquez, it still should shape up as being more formidable than the one the Phillies possess.
Of course, it could prove to be an even more successful quintet if it ever solves that problem routinely presented by Ryan Howard.
Lee vs. Braves: As many of you remember, Lee had been utterly dominant before the Braves tagged him for six earned runs in just five innings on Aug. 29. All of the damage that evening came courtesy the three home runs that Garret Anderson, Matt Diaz and Yunel Escobar combined to hit during the fourth and fifth innings.
These three homers came within a span of nine at-bats. During the other 111 innings that Lee has worked since joining the Phillies on July 29, he has allowed just four other home runs.
Anderson's home woes: Based on his demeanor, there was always reason wonder if Anderson truly wanted to be in Atlanta this year. A quick look at his stats proves he was more productive away from Turner Field.
Home stats: .258 BA, 8 HR, 16 RBIs, 229 ABs
Road stats: .277 BA, 5 HR, 45 RBIs, 267 ABs
In 38 more at-bats, his road RBI total was three times higher than his home RBI total. Here are his RISP splits this past season:
Home: .173 (5-for-44), 1 HR, 9 RBIs
Road: .326 (23-for-78), 2HR, 40 RBIs
Needless to say, this isn't the kind of disparity you want to see out of a guy who batted third, fourth or fifth in 103 of the 124 starts that he made.
Odds and ends: Former Braves, Mike Mordecai, who played in Atlanta from 1994-97, has been hired as a roving Minor League instructor by the Blue Jays. (Sorry had to correct that. Earlier, I said he'd been named Toronto's bench coach)...GM Frank Wren, Bobby Cox and some of the club's other execs are currently holding meeting in Sea Island...Jon "Boog" Sciambi is handling some broadcast duties for his new full-time emplyoer ESPN during this week's World Series...Checked with Fox Sports South this week and didn't gain any indication about who might replace Boog on next year's Braves broadcasts. .
"I'm not going there," said Bako, who served as Maddux's catcher when the legendary hurler set a National League record by not walking a batter over 72 1/3 innings during the 2001 season. "But when (Lee) is on, he's one of the best pitchers that I've ever seen."
Look there's obviously no reason to throw Lee in the same heralded category as Maddux. But while watching the veteran lefty encounter just three, three-ball counts and make a couple of defensive plays that would have made Curly Neel and Meadowlark Lemon proud, I couldn't help but draw memories from the days when Mad Dog was doing this regularity in Atlanta.
Those were the days when Phillies fans and employees despised the Braves. I've been reminded of this a couple of times while following the defending world champs over the course of the past three weeks.
Some of the phone calls and emails that I've received from Atlanta have provided indication that Braves fans are ignoring National League loyalty and hoping that they don't have to see the Phillies win a second straight World Series.
This is based on a small sample size and maybe this isn't the overwhelming feeling among Braves fans. Maybe I would have gained a different perspective had I actually chosen to spend some extended time away from my residence during the four days that I've been in Atlanta since the regular season concluded.
Still regardless of whether they capture this second straight world championship, it's pretty safe to assume that the Phillies have now replaced the Mets as the Braves most-hated division rivals.
While it will take a few more years for the Mets to rise back to a respectable level, the Phillies appear well-positioned to make a run at a fourth consecutive division title next year. Ryan Howard, Chase Utley, Shane Victorino, Jayson Werth and Jimmy Rollins will once again form a solid offensive nucleus and Lee will be around for at least one more year to anchor the starting rotation.
My assumption is that the Phillies will attempt to lock Lee up long before he's given a chance to test the free-agent market at the conclusion of the 2010 season.
Regardless of what the long-term future has in store for Lee, the Phillies will enter next year as the favorites in the National League East. Meanwhile, with Jair Jurrjens, Tommy Hanson and Tim Hudson in place, the Braves still should possess one of the NL's best starting rotation for many years to come.
Once the particulars in Hudson's three-year contract extension are taken care of in the next few days, we'll start to get a better sense about the exact makeup of next year's starting rotation. But regardles of whether it possesses either Derek Lowe or Javier Vazquez, it still should shape up as being more formidable than the one the Phillies possess.
Of course, it could prove to be an even more successful quintet if it ever solves that problem routinely presented by Ryan Howard.
Lee vs. Braves: As many of you remember, Lee had been utterly dominant before the Braves tagged him for six earned runs in just five innings on Aug. 29. All of the damage that evening came courtesy the three home runs that Garret Anderson, Matt Diaz and Yunel Escobar combined to hit during the fourth and fifth innings.
These three homers came within a span of nine at-bats. During the other 111 innings that Lee has worked since joining the Phillies on July 29, he has allowed just four other home runs.
Anderson's home woes: Based on his demeanor, there was always reason wonder if Anderson truly wanted to be in Atlanta this year. A quick look at his stats proves he was more productive away from Turner Field.
Home stats: .258 BA, 8 HR, 16 RBIs, 229 ABs
Road stats: .277 BA, 5 HR, 45 RBIs, 267 ABs
In 38 more at-bats, his road RBI total was three times higher than his home RBI total. Here are his RISP splits this past season:
Home: .173 (5-for-44), 1 HR, 9 RBIs
Road: .326 (23-for-78), 2HR, 40 RBIs
Needless to say, this isn't the kind of disparity you want to see out of a guy who batted third, fourth or fifth in 103 of the 124 starts that he made.
Odds and ends: Former Braves, Mike Mordecai, who played in Atlanta from 1994-97, has been hired as a roving Minor League instructor by the Blue Jays. (Sorry had to correct that. Earlier, I said he'd been named Toronto's bench coach)...GM Frank Wren, Bobby Cox and some of the club's other execs are currently holding meeting in Sea Island...Jon "Boog" Sciambi is handling some broadcast duties for his new full-time emplyoer ESPN during this week's World Series...Checked with Fox Sports South this week and didn't gain any indication about who might replace Boog on next year's Braves broadcasts. .